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It’s Just A Model – a podcast on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design and behaviour

Together with Ron Kersic, I produce and present a podcast on topics that most people don’t talk about. We call it the interstitium, the connecting tissue, highway, magic space where topics like innovation and design come together, similarly where business models, history and AI come together. Our conversations are informal and unrehearsed.

You can find our podcast on our website: itsjustamodel.com and all major podcast platforms: